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we're tired of the mundane passionless

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careers we've been shuffled into as a

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entertainment by gold soulless

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people yes we are frustrated yes

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we are tired and we reject the free

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approved tranquilizers that are monday

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night football and an ice cold budweiser

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we have to stop hiding stop hiding

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behind the headphones in the cherry

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popper 420 username

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let the world see that the resistance is

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strong and society is changing

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there was a time to be anonymous but

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that time has passed

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and so the higher side chats would like

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to present conspiracies as the dawning

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of this new paradigm in the uniform of

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the revolution

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because bold fashion should mean more

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than some celebrity meat dress or frappu

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and a silly pink polo

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conspirates redefines bold fashion as

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having the balls to project socially

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and unpopular truths from your radiant

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let them know that you know bold designs

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for trouble times

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the nation through a series of radio

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for a new era of worldly frustration we

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here we go our side chatters drinking a

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little drink smoking a little smoke from

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san diego i'm greg carlwood celebrating

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50 glorious episodes of the higher side

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chats it has been a wild ride

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at times a conspiracy 101 if you will

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and i could think of none better than

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john scrow author of the

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all-encompassing textbook to the global

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elite battle him to guide us through

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john screw is a journalist author and

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emmy nominated tv producer he's produced

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friend dane phillips to comprise what i

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would respectfully call a conspiracy

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come across for learning of who these

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how they manipulate world events and

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what their plans are a phenomenal expose

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on the puppet masters and a perfect

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john welcome to the show uh hi greg

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absolutely the book is great it's a

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not a single useless sentence jam-packed

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today and they are strong believe me

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characterizing my family and me as

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it's one of the best out there but your

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book is full of great quotes which

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i think makes it awesome for someone

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who's a bit of a skeptic

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who might be reading through and they

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can see these people themselves

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you know making the case that they're

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part of this conspiracy

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i did want to revisit if we could nelson

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rockefeller's dealings with nazis in

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south america

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because it's a story of essentially how

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israel became a country which is a huge

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source of

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of conflict and problems even today

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yeah yeah well you know uh there were a

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tremendous number of

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uh nazis uh who would

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escape to south america of course and

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nelson was

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you know dealing with them um you know

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this is immediately

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you know actually during the war as well

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as immediately afterwards

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so um this is obviously an embarrassment

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and uh ben gurion and the uh israeli

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faction

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uh used this against nelson to basically

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blackmail him

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um and as i said you know this is

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is supported by eyewitnesses who are

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there

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as well as cia documents that have been

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released

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yeah it's so crazy because they

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basically said this is what we want we

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want

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you know our a nation state right here

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on this

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sacred area in the middle east and they

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got it now i've always thought it was a

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bit weird why

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america is in such lockstep with that

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whole thing you point out in the book

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that

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still come out today well yeah yeah i i

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don't think it's as powerful as a sort

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of damocles over our heads as it was

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back then

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because you know a lot of americans are

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are they what they already know that

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operation paper clip took place and

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there was

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more to it than just you know taking

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rocket scientists

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they were they were taking nazi doctors

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who you know committed the most

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uh outrageous uh and heinous acts

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in in their experiments they took

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everybody they could find they took

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people who were you know

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were developing sarin gas and then you

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know other nerve agents

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right well um anyway that's kind of

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known now but back then

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you know it was explosive and basically

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they

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rockefeller with this stuff and said hey

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you know play ball with us

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uh we want the south american nations

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voting uh

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for an israeli state uh or else we're

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gonna release this

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yeah it's so crazy that that nelson had

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the power to just be like all right you

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know

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get off my back with this stuff and it's

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such a huge thing to be able to deliver

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votes for that but

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let's uh get into of course the other

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historic family the rothschilds

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how did they get so powerful well yeah

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it all starts uh

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uh with meyer amshal bauer uh who was

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born in frankfurt way back in 1744.

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uh he apprenticed at a banking house and

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uh finally somehow became court

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financier

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to william the night of hesse castle

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wayne the knight was a mason

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and to ingratiate himself with his

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employer

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meyer became a mason himself and

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this set the family pattern of doing

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business with reigning houses of europe

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now the family fortune began when

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william of hesse received

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a lot of money from england during the

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american revolution to supply his

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hessian troops

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uh he gave this money from that he

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received from england to meyer to be

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invested but meyer

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instead gave it to his son nathan to

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establish himself as head of the family

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business in london

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he eventually repaid william but only

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after nathan had been set up

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now according to nathan rothschild he

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increased

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the 20 000 pounds that his dad gave him

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to 50 million pounds in just a few years

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by 1815 nathan was principal financier

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of the british government and the bank

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of england uh

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later the rothschilds took control of

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the bank of england

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uh you're probably familiar with the

401
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waterloo story that you read in the book

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right

403
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sure bob

404
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well yeah what happened was nathan had

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agents

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first of all he gave money to both

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napoleon and to the british

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army and he had agents there

409
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on the front with both people and so

410
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when wellington defeated napoleon at

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waterloo the final defeat

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nathan had the information a day before

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everybody else and he play acted

414
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like uh he was disappointed and

415
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all the investors you know with a sharp

416
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eye on nathan

417
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sold and nathan bought things

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at pennies on the dollar uh so when the

419
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the truth came out that you know the

420
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other investors were snooker then nathan

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had

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basically a controlling interest in the

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bank of england

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yeah i mean that seems to be the

425
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rothschild strategy all along is i mean

426
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obviously it's more complicated than

427
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buy low sell high but it seems like

428
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they've just been notorious for

429
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manipulating the way investors feel and

430
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the way investors act and then

431
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capitalizing

432
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when the market is low it's kind of

433
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crazy but i think a big problem skeptics

434
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have

435
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with with these families is that john d

436
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rockefeller was building his oil empire

437
00:15:02,150 --> 00:15:00,399
in like 1860 and mayor rothschild rose

438
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to wealth and power in the 1800s as well

439
00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:03,760
it seems hard to believe

440
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that almost 200 years later we're still

441
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stuck under the control of just a few

442
00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:08,480
families but

443
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how have they progressed through the

444
00:15:13,910 --> 00:15:12,160
years have they maintained this power

445
00:15:15,910 --> 00:15:13,920
well yeah it's you know i mean they've

446
00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:15,920
been uh this is part of a plan and it's

447
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generational the rothschilds go back to

448
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the 18th century

449
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and you know they had that have they had

450
00:15:25,910 --> 00:15:22,639
a very clear

451
00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:25,920
uh agenda you know which is to keep

452
00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:27,839
getting more and more power and more and

453
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more control

454
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over the royal houses and other

455
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governments of the

456
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world and they have succeeded

457
00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:37,920
uh tremendously you know around 1804

458
00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:39,680
meyer changed the family name

459
00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:42,800
from bauer to rothschild which was

460
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which means red shield it was taken from

461
00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:47,519
the emblem on the homes of his ancestors

462
00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:49,680
this was due probably because of the

463
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reigning

464
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anti-semitism in europe at the time

465
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meyer's other sons the sites of nathan

466
00:15:58,150 --> 00:15:56,720
established themselves in banking

467
00:16:01,030 --> 00:15:58,160
sectors of paris

468
00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:01,040
vienna and naples and the family's power

469
00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:03,120
and riches grew until they could receive

470
00:16:06,629 --> 00:16:04,720
titles of nobility from

471
00:16:08,230 --> 00:16:06,639
the indebted royal families you know you

472
00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:08,240
have to understand something uh

473
00:16:11,350 --> 00:16:10,480
the whole point of a bank is to create

474
00:16:13,829 --> 00:16:11,360
debt

475
00:16:15,829 --> 00:16:13,839
right and um when you're dealing with

476
00:16:16,870 --> 00:16:15,839
royal houses and governments i mean

477
00:16:18,949 --> 00:16:16,880
you've got

478
00:16:20,949 --> 00:16:18,959
the most powerful institutions in the

479
00:16:23,910 --> 00:16:20,959
entire world indebted to you

480
00:16:24,629 --> 00:16:23,920
right so you get to call the tune many

481
00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:24,639
times

482
00:16:28,069 --> 00:16:26,560
now the rough girls have always seen

483
00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:28,079
america as a plum

484
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that they wanted um they financed the

485
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carnegies the vanderbilts the harrimans

486
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uh

487
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you know in their railroad and steel

488
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businesses in addition to the morgans

489
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they were

490
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really tied close to the morgans by the

491
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way uh

492
00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:43,839
the morgans uh were almost like like

493
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employees as powerful as jp morgan was

494
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it was almost a rothschild employee so

495
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in 1837 the rossignol sent august

496
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schoenberg to the

497
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united states as their agent schoenberg

498
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changed his name to august belmont

499
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and started buying u.s government bonds

500
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with no apparent source of capital

501
00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:04,720
belmont made generous contributions to

502
00:17:07,590 --> 00:17:06,640
the democratic party which led to his

503
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appointment as u.s

504
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representative to the hague between 1853

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and 1857

506
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uh he married commodore perry's daughter

507
00:17:18,949 --> 00:17:17,439
matthew perry's daughter which cemented

508
00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:18,959
his social standing and he became

509
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president of the jockey club as a reward

510
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:22,480
for bringing thoroughbred racing to

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america

512
00:17:26,549 --> 00:17:25,360
um belmont park in new york still bears

513
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his name

514
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but uh in any case he was uh he was

515
00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:29,840
definitely a

516
00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:32,880
rothschild agent uh you know making

517
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moves for them here in the united states

518
00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:37,600
man do you think there's a certain

519
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amount of luck involved with acquiring

520
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this much power and influence

521
00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:44,080
no i think it was a plan set down in the

522
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very beginning

523
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um if you read the epilogue of the book

524
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you'll see there are

525
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i think 25 uh instructions on how

526
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to gain and cement power over

527
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governments

528
00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:57,919
right i mean but they've kind of gotten

529
00:18:01,830 --> 00:17:59,360
lucky in that they've never

530
00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:01,840
really gotten exposed or completely

531
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:02,960
taken out i mean

532
00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:04,960
considering that the group is so small

533
00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:06,880
if someone really found this information

534
00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:07,200
out

535
00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:09,600
early enough you feel like a handful of

536
00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:11,200
bullets could put a stop to

537
00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:14,240
most of it well one of the uh one of the

538
00:18:17,350 --> 00:18:16,480
instructions in the 25 that i mentioned

539
00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:17,360
was to

540
00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:20,880
control the press and they do

541
00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:22,880
you know the press as i mentioned in the

542
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book is controlled

543
00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:26,840
in the western world by just six

544
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corporations

545
00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:29,919
here in america it's just five the sixth

546
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corporation is a german corporation that

547
00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:33,440
controls most of

548
00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:35,200
in fact nearly all of the major

549
00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:36,799
publishing houses here in the united

550
00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:38,320
states and overseas

551
00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:40,720
but uh you know all of the mainstream

552
00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:41,440
media

553
00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:43,760
is controlled by five corporations here

554
00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:45,440
in the united states

555
00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:47,360
right i think people are definitely wise

556
00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:49,520
to that at least they should be by now

557
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:51,600
that that whole section of what we're

558
00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:52,880
talking about is completely off the

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table

560
00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:55,280
the biggest problem we have i mean i've

561
00:18:59,190 --> 00:18:56,960
got friends who

562
00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:59,200
are economic majors and they don't study

563
00:19:01,909 --> 00:19:00,160
this it's just

564
00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:01,919
it's out of the schools as well let's

565
00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:03,120
talk a little bit about how they have

566
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:05,840
manipulated education in this country

567
00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:08,240
oh education well yeah yeah i mean first

568
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:08,960
of all you've got

569
00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:10,240
they're doing it through the federal

570
00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:12,160
government you have to understand that

571
00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:14,320
these people have tremendous amount of

572
00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:15,760
control over the uh

573
00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:18,640
policies of uh this government through

574
00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:20,240
organizations like the council on

575
00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:22,000
foreign relations and the trilateral

576
00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:23,280
commission

577
00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:26,240
literally hundreds of these members are

578
00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:28,000
in the upper administration

579
00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:29,919
as appointees in every single

580
00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:31,039
administration

581
00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:34,640
going back to the 1920s

582
00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:37,039
so anyway the purpose of education today

583
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:38,960
is not to educate but to indoctrinate

584
00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:39,440
children

585
00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:42,320
into collectivism uh doing away with

586
00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:43,840
national sovereignty

587
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:46,799
that's the goal and you know they're

588
00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:48,320
teaching dependence upon the state and

589
00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:49,600
not the family and they

590
00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,880
seek to destroy belief in god uh you can

591
00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:54,400
see this over and over again

592
00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:57,280
you know taking uh you know basically

593
00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:57,840
just

594
00:20:02,950 --> 00:20:00,480
taking all reference to god and religion

595
00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:02,960
out of the curriculum here

596
00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:05,360
um the national education association

597
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:06,799
the nea

598
00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:08,799
creates most of america's educational

599
00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:10,559
programs today

600
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:12,960
uh this nea was created by john d

601
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:15,200
rockefeller who once said quote

602
00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:17,200
i don't want a nation of thinkers i want

603
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:19,520
a nation of workers

604
00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:22,000
um so and the real purpose of the goals

605
00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:22,880
2000

606
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:25,039
educate america act which was passed

607
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:26,000
during the clinton

608
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:28,720
presidency in 1994 is simply to legalize

609
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:31,280
federal jurisdiction over curriculum

610
00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:34,159
so we have you know uh the kenya

611
00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:36,400
continuing pattern of centralization

612
00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:38,640
and i think most people have noticed

613
00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:39,760
that right now

614
00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:42,320
uh you know administration after

615
00:20:47,909 --> 00:20:44,480
administration including this one

616
00:20:49,909 --> 00:20:47,919
uh keeps moving towards centralizing

617
00:20:51,669 --> 00:20:49,919
while stepping all over the uh bill of

618
00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:51,679
rights the constitution and states

619
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:52,960
rights

620
00:20:56,230 --> 00:20:54,559
let's switch gears a little bit to talk

621
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:56,240
about something i mean if you look into

622
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:58,000
the most basic of conspiracy information

623
00:21:02,070 --> 00:20:59,919
you're gonna come across bohemian grove

624
00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:02,080
with the iconic image of the giant owl

625
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:02,960
statue

626
00:21:07,870 --> 00:21:04,960
but can you tell us a bit about the

627
00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:07,880
bohemian grove club it started in what

628
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:09,840
1872

629
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:11,919
uh yeah yeah well first of all i want to

630
00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:13,919
point out that i didn't find a bohemian

631
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:15,120
grove

632
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:18,159
that evil you know it's more like i

633
00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:19,919
don't know it's like a silly collection

634
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:20,960
of you know

635
00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:23,840
old guys acting like like frac frat guys

636
00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:24,799
you know um

637
00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:26,799
my former boss murph griffin was a

638
00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:28,960
member of the bohemian grove and stuff

639
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:30,400
like that so

640
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:32,320
it's you know i mean they go through

641
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:34,400
yeah they have uh you know a ceremony

642
00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:34,799
that

643
00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:37,280
uh includes the owl and everything else

644
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,679
and basically uh you know it's just

645
00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:41,280
it's every year it happens annually in

646
00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:44,320
july up in northern california

647
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:46,320
and the one thing that is somewhat

648
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:47,600
disturbing is that these

649
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:50,000
hugely powerful men are all together and

650
00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:51,760
you know are making policy without

651
00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:53,600
dealing with congress or voters or

652
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,799
anything like that

653
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:56,480
well i mean yeah you said i guess the

654
00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:58,080
all the last 15

655
00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:59,679
presidents have all been members like

656
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:01,840
that's obviously a powerful group

657
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,640
oh definitely yeah no i believe me it's

658
00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:06,480
you know it's the power brokers of the

659
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:07,840
of the world you know people like

660
00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:10,080
kissinger are lifelong members almost

661
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:13,120
um but you know when you when you stand

662
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:13,919
back from it

663
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:16,240
i mean what's really the difference

664
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:17,760
between that

665
00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:20,080
and a bunch of really rich guys getting

666
00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:21,760
together on a golf course and you know

667
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:23,679
working things out for themselves

668
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:26,159
that's true you know i i i just i

669
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,840
couldn't find it that evil

670
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:29,360
yeah it's just it's a bit bizarre

671
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:31,280
there's a lot of homosexuality involved

672
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,240
in the you know

673
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:34,559
the shenanigans that go on there well

674
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:35,360
and

675
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:41,120
freemasons i mean in the section about

676
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,440
the secret masonic uh agenda you

677
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:45,200
mentioned that the masons at the highest

678
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:46,799
level are rumored to know

679
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:48,880
chunks of hidden knowledge coming from

680
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,880
ancient egypt or pythagoras

681
00:22:53,909 --> 00:22:52,400
can you elaborate on do you have any

682
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:53,919
idea what some of that knowledge might

683
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:54,880
be

684
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:56,559
well no i you know tell you the truth i

685
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:58,960
didn't delve into the ancient secrets

686
00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:01,120
uh i tried to keep this very you know

687
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:03,039
sort of university

688
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:07,360
and uh you know i i avoided religious

689
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:10,400
stuff of any kind but uh

690
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:12,559
anyway with the illuminati um you know i

691
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,600
mean they

692
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:15,360
you know the organization may go back to

693
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:17,120
ancient times but i just traced it to

694
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,159
adam weishaupt

695
00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:20,880
who started the bavarian uh illuminati

696
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:22,240
on may 1st

697
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:25,360
in 1776 and note the date may 1st is may

698
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:25,919
day

699
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:29,120
course in the communist

700
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:32,159
and socialist realm

701
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:34,799
anyway vice helped form this with help

702
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:35,440
from

703
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:37,200
good old william of william of hassan

704
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:38,720
ross charles benefactor

705
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:42,000
and uh in 77 in 1773 uh

706
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:43,760
records of a speech that maya ross

707
00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:45,760
charles made to 12 wealthy europeans in

708
00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:47,840
frankfurt show his plan to gain

709
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:49,840
control of most of the world's riches

710
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:51,679
and resources thereby controlling most

711
00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:53,440
of the world population

712
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:55,600
uh this is the 25 instructions i was

713
00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:56,720
talking about which are

714
00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:59,679
in the uh the back of the book uh

715
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:00,960
rothschild basically are

716
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:03,600
using these to foment a revolution in

717
00:24:07,269 --> 00:24:04,799
france

718
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:07,279
because of uh the potential riches he

719
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:07,840
could gain

720
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,400
from such a chaotic event and you know

721
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:12,159
that proved to be the case

722
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:15,440
so vice put the plan into motion in 1784

723
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:17,600
with his own document

724
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:19,600
which was sort of a copy of the 25

725
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:20,640
instructions but

726
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:23,279
uh oddly enough bavarian authorities got

727
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:23,919
hold of it

728
00:24:29,909 --> 00:24:27,440
he had given it to a messenger and

729
00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:29,919
this talk about fate the messenger was

730
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:30,799
struck

731
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:33,919
by lightning and killed on horseback and

732
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:36,080
somebody found you know this these

733
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:36,960
documents

734
00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:39,840
gave them to the bavarian authorities

735
00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:41,120
and so they cracked down on the

736
00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,279
illuminati there in bavaria and

737
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:45,200
you know basically chased them all out

738
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:46,799
if they didn't imprison them

739
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:49,039
uh most of them infiltrated the masonic

740
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:51,039
lodges in france

741
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:54,080
and in a few years they uh illuminized

742
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:56,000
the freemasons there they were actively

743
00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:57,039
creating food

744
00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:00,080
heritage shortages and

745
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,080
that would lead to the masses to revolt

746
00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:04,240
in france the duke of orleans

747
00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:06,159
who was grand master of the french

748
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,520
masonry

749
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:09,600
uh purchased all the grain in the french

750
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:12,240
harvest of 1789 and either sold it or

751
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:13,679
brought or hid it

752
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:16,320
and this led to starvation coupled with

753
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:16,960
the near

754
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,880
bankruptcy of france following its

755
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,400
expenditures and

756
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:22,559
aiding the american revolution led to

757
00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:24,320
the upheaval in paris that we know

758
00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:26,799
as the french revolution now oddly

759
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:27,440
enough

760
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:30,640
not surprisingly uh the radical jacobins

761
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:34,080
uh were mainly freemasons and uh so was

762
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:35,679
the majority of the estate

763
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:37,760
general after the uh you know after they

764
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:39,600
deposed the king

765
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:42,320
now in the wars that would follow for

766
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:42,960
literally

767
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:46,080
a quarter of a century international

768
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:46,720
bankers

769
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:48,799
and especially the rothschilds enriched

770
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,159
themselves

771
00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:52,480
through interest laden loans to the

772
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:54,159
governments at war

773
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:56,400
and you know by the time napoleon fell

774
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:57,919
as i said the rothschilds had become

775
00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:00,159
masters of european finance and thereby

776
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:02,640
you know masters of europe itself i

777
00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:04,720
think it was rothschild who said give me

778
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:06,320
control of a nation's currency and i

779
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:08,320
care not who makes its laws

780
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:11,200
exactly exactly it seems like such a

781
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:12,240
simple plan it's

782
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:15,360
it's kind of ridiculous that

783
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:17,120
everyone just stood by he must look at

784
00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:19,279
the rothschilds must look at us as the

785
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:21,440
the dumbest planet ever like to just be

786
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:23,360
able to seize control like that

787
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:26,240
well yeah yeah they uh they uh in the 25

788
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:28,880
instructions they actually use a word

789
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:33,440
that translates to livestock cattle

790
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:34,880
you know when referring to the general

791
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:37,120
population yeah

792
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:39,279
so yeah they hold they hold the uh they

793
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:41,600
hold us all in low regard believe me

794
00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:43,039
so it seems like because of the

795
00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:44,640
infiltration of the masons

796
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:46,000
by the alumni because i think there's a

797
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:47,520
lot of confusion about these two groups

798
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:48,240
would you say

799
00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:50,799
in modern times they're somewhat the

800
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:52,400
same group when it when you get to the

801
00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:53,760
top levels

802
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:55,679
well yeah as i said the uh you know the

803
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:57,679
freemasons in france at the top levels

804
00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:59,600
became illuminized you know the

805
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:02,400
illuminati moved in there but yeah and

806
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:03,760
freeman you know i mean a lot of people

807
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:05,760
still think today that freemason

808
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,520
freemasonry is simply a collection of

809
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,520
guys uh dedicated to strengthening the

810
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:11,039
brotherhood of mankind

811
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,880
right you know this is blatantly

812
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,720
disproved by history uh

813
00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:16,640
including recent history you know the

814
00:27:21,909 --> 00:27:18,399
masonic lodge of italy called

815
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:21,919
p2 um it's uh that's based

816
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:23,840
that's the italian word propaganda

817
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,279
masonica doule

818
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:27,600
became a state within the state under

819
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:29,120
the leadership of uh

820
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:31,360
lichio gayle according to an italian

821
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,399
court indictment

822
00:27:36,669 --> 00:27:34,720
the organization boasted members among

823
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:36,679
italy's cabinet ministers

824
00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:39,520
parliamentarians army generals admirals

825
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:41,360
industrial bankers journalists

826
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:43,760
diplomats and police chiefs this was all

827
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:46,240
revealed in the 1981 probe

828
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:48,159
now the basic plan was to create an

829
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:49,840
atmosphere of terror

830
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:51,919
in which the italian people would favor

831
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:53,919
more authoritarian governments

832
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,799
uh you'll recall after the war the uh

833
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:58,399
there was a danger of italy going

834
00:28:02,230 --> 00:27:59,200
communist

835
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:02,240
the marxist party uh was it was very

836
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:03,679
powerful there and a lot of

837
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:06,720
its members were in the italian uh

838
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:09,840
resistance against the nazi occupation

839
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:12,159
so terrorist acts were committed and

840
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,480
blamed upon these leftist organizations

841
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,559
uh these are false flag attacks the plan

842
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,480
was a spin-off of an earlier american

843
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:20,720
operation created by the cia's james

844
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:21,760
jesus angleton

845
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:24,080
shortly after world war ii it was called

846
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:25,840
operation gladio

847
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:27,600
uh this called for an alliance between

848
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:30,000
the mafia and the vatican and

849
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:32,720
stanching the communist threat in italy

850
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,240
false flag bombings

851
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:36,480
made and planted by nato personnel and

852
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:38,080
blamed on the communists to kill

853
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,320
civilians throughout europe

854
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,320
these astonishing charges were proved in

855
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:44,480
italian courts by documents and later

856
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:45,840
corroborated by

857
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:47,919
former italian president francesco

858
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,880
koziga

859
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:50,799
who admitted to founding the italian

860
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:52,960
gladial operation

861
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:55,039
now over the centuries charges of

862
00:28:57,909 --> 00:28:56,159
satanism have

863
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:57,919
been leveled at uh higher degrees of

864
00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,840
freedom masonry right

865
00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:01,760
um you know modern authors like ralph

866
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:02,960
epperson believe that

867
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:05,200
uh lucifer is the secret god of the

868
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:06,159
masons and

869
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:08,320
uh you know his basic plan is the other

870
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:09,200
destruction of

871
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:11,760
christianity yeah you know there's been

872
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:12,880
rumors of that and

873
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:14,799
i was really glad to see that in your

874
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:15,840
book it's something people have been

875
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:17,200
talking about but there's a lot of

876
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:18,080
suggestion that

877
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:20,000
catholicism itself is a front for

878
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:21,760
satanic worship i mean right down to the

879
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:24,080
mass where a human sacrifices worship

880
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:25,679
being jesus on a cross and then his

881
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:27,440
blood and flesh is feasted upon by the

882
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:28,640
congregation

883
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:31,120
is that not a similar type front in a

884
00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:32,000
way

885
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:35,600
well yeah i i mean there are elements

886
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,919
at the very top in the vatican who are

887
00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:39,120
you know not very

888
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:42,399
saintly let's put it that way um but uh

889
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:44,399
yeah yeah and of course you know charges

890
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:45,760
have been leveled at the jesuits for

891
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:47,600
centuries i mean they were actually

892
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,440
excommunicated at one point by the

893
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:51,520
church itself and of course our new pope

894
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:52,960
is a former jesuit

895
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:54,559
right i was gonna say i mean of course

896
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:57,200
it's not in the books it's so recent but

897
00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:58,880
considering there's always an

898
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:01,360
alternative story there seems to be

899
00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:02,640
you've done a lot of research into that

900
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:04,159
kind of thing do you have any thoughts

901
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:04,880
about the

902
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,480
pope's resignation and the election of

903
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,399
this new pope it seems to be

904
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:10,399
pretty a pretty different situation for

905
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:11,679
the catholics to be in

906
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,480
well yeah i'm not i can't buy the uh the

907
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:15,840
story that uh

908
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:18,399
that benedict uh resigned due to health

909
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:18,960
because

910
00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:21,760
many many many popes had bad health and

911
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,520
just stayed until the end

912
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:25,360
uh so there may have been something some

913
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:27,440
there have been whispers like uh

914
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:30,559
you know maybe it was due to his lack of

915
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:31,600
uh

916
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:34,799
with

917
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:36,880
molested children and stuff like that

918
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,799
right um there's also been whispers

919
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:40,799
about you know again the masons getting

920
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:42,000
involved

921
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:43,919
you'll remember uh they were you know

922
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:45,200
there was a huge scandal

923
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:46,799
in which the masons were you know

924
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:50,000
involved in the vatican bank

925
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:52,960
and um i i did but these are just rumors

926
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:53,679
right now and

927
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:56,799
i haven't seen anything uh that's you

928
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:57,360
know that

929
00:31:01,269 --> 00:30:59,919
that's nothing inclusive definitively

930
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:01,279
that this is why he

931
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:03,840
resigned yeah it makes you think though

932
00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:05,519
considering all the

933
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:07,679
alternative stories and all the hidden

934
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:09,519
power battles

935
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,799
there's got to be something else there

936
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,720
but bring us up to date

937
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:14,000
and talk about some things that are

938
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:15,600
affecting people in the present what are

939
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:17,279
some of the ways these puppet masters

940
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:20,159
are affecting individuals today

941
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:22,559
well first of all they uh you know they

942
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:23,679
populate

943
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:26,720
every administration right uh so so

944
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:27,840
they're making policy

945
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:29,840
even though these are almost all of them

946
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:30,880
are unelected

947
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:33,200
it's it's gotten away from a government

948
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:34,799
of the people by the people and for the

949
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:35,360
people

950
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:38,080
it's uh it's now a government uh you

951
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:38,559
know

952
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:41,039
basically a ruling by uh almost by

953
00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:41,760
decree

954
00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:44,720
so i'll give you an example the cfr um

955
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:45,679
you know uh

956
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:47,919
you you look through history uh you know

957
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:49,840
they've they started in the early 20s

958
00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:52,399
and they've produced a stunning list of

959
00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:55,200
presidents and presidential candidates

960
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,519
and usually these cfr members are

961
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:59,120
running against each other

962
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:00,880
for instance eisenhower and adlai

963
00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:03,120
stevenson were both cfr members as were

964
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:03,919
jfk

965
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:06,799
and nixon hubert humphrey and nixon

966
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:08,799
george mcgovern and nixon

967
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:11,360
ford and carter bush senior and michael

968
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:12,559
dukakis

969
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:14,960
clinton and bush in 92 and clinton and

970
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,480
dole in 96

971
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:18,640
you know and since 1952 only one

972
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,840
presidential election

973
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:21,840
featured non-cfr members from both

974
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:23,840
parties that was the johnson goldwater

975
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:24,720
ticket

976
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:28,000
uh election and uh when johnson won he

977
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:29,120
turned around and

978
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:32,880
and appointed 370 387

979
00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:36,720
cfr members into his administration

980
00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:39,279
so you know the cfr you know and the

981
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:41,120
trilaterals

982
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:44,080
they populate the uh policy-making arm

983
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:44,559
of

984
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:48,159
our government yeah it's

985
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:49,679
it's definitely messed up i mean i know

986
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:51,200
when obama was elected

987
00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:53,919
i was the first time i was holding out

988
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,919
hope that he was the internet candidate

989
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:57,440
who rose up against

990
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,960
hillary clinton who i thought was the

991
00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,960
establishment candidate and i was

992
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:02,159
pretty interested in things he was

993
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:03,679
saying but as soon as he chose his

994
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:04,960
cabinet and that was a little bit

995
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:06,640
sketchy too because he held off for a

996
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:07,279
long time

997
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:08,559
until he made those announcements and a

998
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:10,320
lot of people were expecting

999
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:13,039
real pioneers and economics and science

1000
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:14,559
to really get good places in the

1001
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:16,080
administration of course

1002
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:18,640
it was all cfr and that that's where i

1003
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:20,559
knew it was just going to be another

1004
00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:22,640
you know same course that we've been on

1005
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:24,799
yeah yeah and in the book i lift

1006
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:27,120
uh all the people in his upper cabinet

1007
00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:27,840
uh

1008
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,200
all three

1009
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,960
and you know i mean yeah he made a lot

1010
00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:38,799
of promises about you know i'm not going

1011
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:39,519
to you know

1012
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:41,440
let wall street run this government and

1013
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:42,960
i'm not going to

1014
00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:45,039
let uh you know lobbyists run and then

1015
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:46,399
he turned around i point nothing

1016
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,080
appointed nothing but wall street and

1017
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:50,159
lobbyist people right

1018
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:51,760
to be there that was his first you know

1019
00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:54,080
in his first term

1020
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:56,240
reagan's first first term administration

1021
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:58,799
featured 313 cfr members

1022
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,880
clinton's administration numbered nearly

1023
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:02,640
100 cfr members

1024
00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:05,440
obama is not cfr but the top levels as i

1025
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:07,200
said this administration are filled with

1026
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:09,040
cfr members

1027
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:11,839
um so there are there are people who

1028
00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:13,839
blew the whistle on the cfr because you

1029
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:15,679
know they claim to be just basically a

1030
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:16,639
think tank

1031
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:20,560
okay um but a former member uh admiral

1032
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:22,000
chester ward said

1033
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:24,560
the single objective of the cfr is to

1034
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:25,839
bring about the surrender of the

1035
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:27,040
sovereignty and the national

1036
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:29,440
independence of the united states

1037
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:32,800
um that's the single goal

1038
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:35,440
um you know they're aiming for something

1039
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:36,960
like the european union they want a

1040
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,639
north american union

1041
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:40,320
they sugarcoat it and make it all sound

1042
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:41,919
so wonderful and

1043
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:44,079
modern but really what you're doing

1044
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:45,760
there once you lose sovereignty of the

1045
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:47,359
united states is

1046
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:49,040
say goodbye to the constitution and the

1047
00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:50,879
bill of rights because

1048
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:52,639
you know it's no longer the united

1049
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:53,919
states

1050
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:57,040
um and they will rule by uh by decree

1051
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:59,280
obviously they got positions of power

1052
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:00,880
one of their biggest tools

1053
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:02,800
against us is the central banks we've

1054
00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:04,880
covered that before on the show

1055
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:07,359
uh but how are they getting closer to

1056
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:08,480
this north american union because i've

1057
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:09,760
heard it talked about

1058
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:12,560
uh in the in the 90s in the early 2000s

1059
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,520
and it kind of

1060
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:15,200
it kind of went away i haven't heard as

1061
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:16,880
much about it in recent years but

1062
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:17,680
they're still

1063
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:20,640
progressing on this track right oh yeah

1064
00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:22,000
the uh

1065
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:23,839
they are they've they've taken so many

1066
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:25,359
steps to this

1067
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:27,200
uh you know to form this north american

1068
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,400
union i mean

1069
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:30,240
it's frightening really uh what has

1070
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:31,680
already been put in place

1071
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,119
to uh to make this happen i i i a great

1072
00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:37,359
uh guy to read on this is daniel estelin

1073
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:39,040
uh he's been following uh the

1074
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:41,200
bilderbergs for a long time

1075
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:44,240
and you know he's canadian and he uh

1076
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:47,920
he revealed that uh canada very nearly

1077
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:50,320
in the in the 90s became part of the

1078
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:51,359
united states

1079
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:54,160
uh he said in the 1996 bilderberg

1080
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:55,599
meeting in toronto

1081
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:57,200
they discussed the imminent breakup of

1082
00:36:02,390 --> 00:35:59,839
canada according to him that

1083
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:02,400
the quebec independence vote took place

1084
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,240
in 1997

1085
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:06,480
and the plan was that would set the

1086
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:07,440
stage for

1087
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:09,440
a canadian angelus into the united

1088
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:11,760
states by 2000

1089
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,560
but the the media firestorm prevented it

1090
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:16,079
and you know henry kissinger who was

1091
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:16,880
pushing for this

1092
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:20,480
uh actually browbeat uh the canadian uh

1093
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:21,920
prime minister at the time john

1094
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:24,320
corinthian he said that he would quote

1095
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:26,079
be damned if someone was going to screw

1096
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,040
this up for him

1097
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:30,000
unquote this was uh this was reported by

1098
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,960
a witness

1099
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:33,119
who was in the bilderberg meeting when

1100
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:35,440
kissinger said that

1101
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:38,720
um anyway escuelin has found

1102
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:41,760
evidence that there's a three-step plan

1103
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:42,480
to break up

1104
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:46,000
canada and include independence for

1105
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:47,920
french-speaking quebec

1106
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:50,560
so the uh whatever is not quebec would

1107
00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:51,599
be uh

1108
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:53,839
joined to the u.s you know like the 51st

1109
00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:56,320
state ontario would be the 52nd state

1110
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:57,440
according to escalin

1111
00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:59,920
and canadian prairies would be the 53rd

1112
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:01,440
in british columbia

1113
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:02,880
and the northern territories would be

1114
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:04,800
the 54th state now the

1115
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:07,200
north american free trade association

1116
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:08,320
which was signed in

1117
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:11,520
1987 was the initial step

1118
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:14,160
along this path the original text of

1119
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:14,960
this has never

1120
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:17,200
been seen by the public it laid

1121
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:19,040
groundwork for eventual combination of

1122
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:20,720
canada mexico and the u.s

1123
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:23,839
into the north american union and

1124
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:26,400
you know this nafta it's called the

1125
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:28,480
north american free trade

1126
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,680
uh went into effect uh january 1st 1994

1127
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,520
the same day congress approved the u.s

1128
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,040
membership in the world trade

1129
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:36,960
organization

1130
00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:38,560
since then more than a dozen agreements

1131
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:41,599
have unified trade travel security and

1132
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:44,240
other vital elements in creating a union

1133
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,320
and ending national sovereignty

1134
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:48,320
the security and prosperity partnership

1135
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:49,520
of north america

1136
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:53,520
known as the sbp was signed in 2005.

1137
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:56,320
it contains more than 300 initiatives to

1138
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:58,240
harmonize policies on everything from

1139
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:00,320
food to transportation

1140
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:02,000
there was no debate in congress on the

1141
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:04,400
fdp instead corporate leaders and

1142
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:06,160
unelected cabinet members

1143
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:08,000
from each country received permanent

1144
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:09,440
positions on the sbp

1145
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:12,480
directorship uh you know ron paul called

1146
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:13,760
this a quasi-government

1147
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:16,720
organization not not a treaty it's you

1148
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:17,280
know this

1149
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,440
uh this spp was an agreement not a

1150
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,359
treaty so there was no need for congress

1151
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:23,280
to ratify the spp

1152
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:24,800
uh with the necessary two-thirds

1153
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:27,760
majority uh instead a handful of uh

1154
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:29,760
elites bypassed the legislature and

1155
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:31,599
ignored the constitution

1156
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:33,920
which grants congress the sole authority

1157
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:35,839
to regulate international trade

1158
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:37,920
since nafta is headquartered in mexico

1159
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,760
its activities are independent of

1160
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:41,200
congress

1161
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:43,920
so you see it's still going right

1162
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:45,040
obviously

1163
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:46,640
these people have positions of power

1164
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:48,720
they have a one world agenda

1165
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:51,440
they're dumbing us down with education

1166
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:52,560
let's talk about a couple of the other

1167
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,640
things i mean particularly fluoride i

1168
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:56,160
know a lot of people aren't convinced

1169
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:57,839
about the dangers of fluoride it seems

1170
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:58,640
too big

1171
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,960
and too hard to get away with but what'd

1172
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:02,240
you find when you really looked into

1173
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:02,960
that

1174
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:04,960
well first of all fluoride is a

1175
00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:07,520
byproduct of the

1176
00:39:12,829 --> 00:39:10,640
manufacture of aluminum okay

1177
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,839
and it is the active ingredient rack

1178
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:14,880
poison all right

1179
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:17,680
okay so yeah you know well you know i've

1180
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:19,200
talked to doctors who said

1181
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:22,079
you know there's absolutely no benefit

1182
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:22,560
uh

1183
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:28,720
okay you know i mean for anybody who's

1184
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:29,920
not a child anymore you're getting

1185
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:30,880
fluoride

1186
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:33,520
it doesn't do any good uh the question

1187
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:34,079
is how much

1188
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:36,000
bad is it doing well there's or there's

1189
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:38,000
a condition called sclerosis

1190
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:39,680
you know that's pretty widespread now

1191
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:41,280
and it's even among teenagers where the

1192
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:43,200
enamel has gone off their teeth

1193
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:50,230
you know fluoride was used to pacify

1194
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,599
people the russians the soviets

1195
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:55,680
discovered this trait and used it in

1196
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,040
their gulags to

1197
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,599
you know keep the inmates uh calm and

1198
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:01,359
not troublesome

1199
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:02,880
yeah you say it calms aggressive

1200
00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:05,200
tendencies and lowers iqs of children i

1201
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:06,319
mean that's pretty

1202
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:09,040
damning you know yeah i know but it all

1203
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:10,880
it also kind of fits in

1204
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:12,880
with you know the goals uh you know

1205
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:15,119
definitely yeah definitely it's you know

1206
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:16,079
they they don't want

1207
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:17,599
intelligent people they want good

1208
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:19,520
workers you know

1209
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:21,440
another modern conspiracy a popular

1210
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:23,920
motif in pop culture is the paranoid

1211
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:25,760
conspiracy theorist who's freaking out

1212
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:26,079
about

1213
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:29,119
rfid chips but it seems like this should

1214
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:32,000
be a real concern of people's today no

1215
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:34,240
well yeah because the rfid chip when

1216
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:35,760
tested on mice caused

1217
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:40,480
tumors and it's like uh

1218
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:42,400
you know i questioned a guy and he said

1219
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:43,839
well you know well there's a difference

1220
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:44,640
between mice

1221
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:47,119
and humans and i go yeah okay would you

1222
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:48,079
let your kids

1223
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,079
be chipped and you thought for a second

1224
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:52,400
and he said no no

1225
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:55,920
so you know come on um

1226
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:58,640
it's it's it's shown to cause tumors

1227
00:41:01,670 --> 00:41:00,240
okay nobody wants tumors

1228
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:01,680
you know nobody wants something in them

1229
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:03,760
that cause tumors that's just one reason

1230
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:06,560
the other thing is you know how it can

1231
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:07,599
be used

1232
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:10,240
the rockefellers have this idea that if

1233
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:11,040
everybody gets

1234
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:13,920
chipped then you know they can have

1235
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:14,720
access to

1236
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:17,760
all of their financial and health admin

1237
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:19,599
you know information right stuff like

1238
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:21,280
that and if somebody

1239
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,040
becomes obnoxious they just turn off the

1240
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:24,800
chip and all of a sudden the guy can't

1241
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:26,560
he can't get a job he can't get social

1242
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:28,000
security he can't get anything

1243
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:29,760
he can't get a license a driver's

1244
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:31,920
license he's been made a non-person

1245
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:34,160
yeah it's a scary thing but i mean it's

1246
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:36,079
already in passports it's it's there

1247
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:36,640
with no

1248
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:40,400
not much resistance and i do think this

1249
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:42,880
is going to be a real challenge i guess

1250
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:45,040
when i look at the the big overarching

1251
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:46,640
theme here it's like they seem to be

1252
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,119
getting

1253
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:49,359
super close to their objectives but this

1254
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,200
the trump card seems to be the hardest

1255
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,960
to get over it seems like

1256
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:54,640
you know that might be the wake up call

1257
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:57,680
that people need but i cannot see

1258
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:00,960
the whole country willingly getting

1259
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,960
you know a radio transmitter implanted

1260
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:04,319
in them i just i cannot see that

1261
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:05,839
happening but it is in the health care

1262
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:06,480
bill that

1263
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:09,760
out a few years ago now well

1264
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:11,520
yeah yeah and of course you know i got

1265
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:13,359
uh i got a lot of uh

1266
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:15,040
flak for for mentioning that because

1267
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:16,640
apparently they took it out

1268
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:19,280
before they uh actually passed the bill

1269
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,599
um you know i wrote this in 2010

1270
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,160
and it was still in there then so uh you

1271
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:26,400
know i just didn't change it but uh

1272
00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:28,720
yeah um the way it was written

1273
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,079
originally was that

1274
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,960
you know it's not mandatory but if you

1275
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:34,480
want obamacare

1276
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:37,839
you have to have it you know so in fact

1277
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,160
it is mandatory basically

1278
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,920
and you know they may have taken it out

1279
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,920
of the build because of the heat on it

1280
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:45,040
but

1281
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:46,960
it's the it's the motivation that's

1282
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:48,560
important you know why why put it in

1283
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:49,280
there at all

1284
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,800
clearly they want this in there and you

1285
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:52,480
know maybe it got caught this time in

1286
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:53,359
this

1287
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,880
hundred page bill they put out but

1288
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:56,480
they'll put it in again

1289
00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:59,359
and yeah they'll they'll find a way to

1290
00:43:01,589 --> 00:43:00,160
sneak it in

1291
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,599
that's what they do with all these bills

1292
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:03,839
you know they're all 2000 pages long and

1293
00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:04,240
the

1294
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:05,920
congress has you know basically 10

1295
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:07,760
minutes to read them so anyway that's

1296
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:08,960
the sad state of our

1297
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:12,079
our democracy right now yeah um

1298
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,920
but yeah yeah that's frightening you

1299
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:15,520
know i have this uh funny thing where

1300
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:17,680
they have this uh this actually this

1301
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:19,760
truck you know that goes around chipping

1302
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,960
people

1303
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:22,640
it's like you know like a cool thing to

1304
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:24,079
do you know get chipped

1305
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,560
you know and uh right i wish people

1306
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:28,640
would you know just stop and think for a

1307
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:29,119
moment

1308
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:32,319
what are the connotations of this yeah

1309
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:35,359
another another area people worry about

1310
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:37,839
in modern conspiracy is the vaccines and

1311
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,560
you have

1312
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,160
a chapter in battle him called the

1313
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,480
cancer dance everybody today realizes

1314
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:44,079
there's been a serious spike in cancer

1315
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:45,280
and everyone has a different theory as

1316
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:46,160
to why

1317
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:47,599
but i guess there seems to be a link

1318
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:50,400
between the polio vaccine

1319
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:54,160
and a spike in soft tissue cancer uh

1320
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:54,640
yeah

1321
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:58,640
information from edward haslam the

1322
00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:59,520
author

1323
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:01,920
um the polio vaccine introduced by

1324
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:02,960
albert

1325
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:06,400
sabin in 1955 was accidentally laced

1326
00:44:10,030 --> 00:44:08,640
with a carcinoid carcinogenic pathogen

1327
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:10,040
called symbian virus

1328
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:13,599
740 or sv 40

1329
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:16,800
uh a massive vaccination program spread

1330
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:18,800
sv40 to an entire generation

1331
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:21,200
and when this was discovered cancer

1332
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:23,280
research was redoubled in expectation of

1333
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:25,359
a spike in soft tissue cancer

1334
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:28,000
that has since occurred in the meantime

1335
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:29,760
the new polio vaccine was quietly

1336
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:30,800
removed

1337
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:32,480
and but the news spurred military and

1338
00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:33,920
intelligence communities to begin

1339
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,079
research into weaponizing cancer

1340
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:38,240
prime target of course was fidel castro

1341
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:40,079
at the time

1342
00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:42,160
a large lab was set up in new orleans at

1343
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:44,720
the u.s health service hospital

1344
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:48,240
it was supervised by dr alton osner

1345
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:50,880
who was a right wing anti-castro

1346
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:51,520
activist

1347
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:53,040
uh who actually became head of the

1348
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:55,200
american cancer society

1349
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:58,240
um one of his uh his workers dr

1350
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:01,200
mary sherman held a high position in the

1351
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:02,480
in the clinic

1352
00:45:07,230 --> 00:45:05,040
uh which was closed and dismantled when

1353
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:07,240
she died this suspicious death in

1354
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,400
1964. in 63

1355
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:12,160
ochsner founded the international

1356
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:13,680
council of americas or

1357
00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:17,040
inca inca it was an anti-communist

1358
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:18,160
propaganda outlet

1359
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:19,839
protecting the interests of american

1360
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:21,599
fruit and shipping companies depended on

1361
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:23,520
latin american stability

1362
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:26,560
uh naturally uh you know in august 1963

1363
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:27,839
inca began

1364
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:30,880
demonizing lee oswald as a pro-castro

1365
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:33,440
traitor

1366
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:35,760
dr ochsner himself produced a record

1367
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,000
album of the radio discussion between

1368
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:40,400
oswald and an anti-cuban

1369
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,560
spokesman oxner's picture is right on

1370
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,480
the back of the cover there

1371
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:46,000
but it's clear that oswald was doing

1372
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:47,680
business with oxner

1373
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:50,400
um years after the jfk murder uh the

1374
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:51,440
garrison probe

1375
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,000
uncovered a second secret lab attempting

1376
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,319
to weaponize cancer in new orleans uh

1377
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:58,560
this was run by right-wing extremists

1378
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,400
and located in the apartment

1379
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:02,960
rented by david ferry who had known

1380
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:05,280
oswald since lee was a teenager in the

1381
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:06,400
new orleans civil

1382
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:09,839
air patrol the ferry lab employed a

1383
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:11,680
gifted young researcher named judith

1384
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:13,760
baker who was recruited right out of

1385
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:16,400
high school by ochsner

1386
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:19,359
to work on weaponizing cancer now baker

1387
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:21,280
uh and oswald had an affair

1388
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,400
in 1963 partially corroborated by their

1389
00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:26,640
pay slips from the riley uh coffee

1390
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:27,520
company

1391
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:30,319
which was their cover job baker claims

1392
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:31,920
oswald

1393
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:34,160
introduced her to ferry who admitted

1394
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:37,280
knowing ochsner and mary sherman

1395
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:39,680
oswald also introduced judy baker to a

1396
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,880
guy banister who

1397
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:42,240
coordinated the training of the

1398
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:44,480
anti-castro cubans in the

1399
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:47,920
nearby lake panchar train uh baker

1400
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:49,920
claims that banister admitted

1401
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,200
oswald was working for him and she also

1402
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,960
claims that oswald went into oxner's

1403
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,000
office before she was

1404
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:58,319
allowed to meet the doctor indicating

1405
00:47:02,630 --> 00:46:59,280
that oswald

1406
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:02,640
knew oxner well baker admits that she

1407
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:03,280
bred a

1408
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:06,319
quote vicious galloping cancer in quotes

1409
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:08,880
the reports and samples of what she and

1410
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,000
oswald took to mary

1411
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,319
sherman to be further perfected through

1412
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:14,319
radiation at the u.s public health

1413
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:15,839
service hospital

1414
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:17,760
baker claims oswald and ferry then

1415
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:20,559
introduced her to sparky rubenstein who

1416
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:21,280
she says

1417
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,920
told her he'd known oswell since he was

1418
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:25,280
a little boy

1419
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:27,359
it was only after oswald's murder did

1420
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:35,270
i know it's just an amazing story um

1421
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,400
this uh the baker interview was on uh an

1422
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:40,800
hour-long program on the history channel

1423
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:43,920
it's i recommend it highly uh according

1424
00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:45,119
to her clay shaw

1425
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,280
arranged the hotel rooms where she and

1426
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:49,680
oswald had their love trift

1427
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:51,599
uh the connections between oswald shaw

1428
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:52,880
oxner ferry

1429
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:55,680
ruby sherman and bannister they've never

1430
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,760
been broached in official investigations

1431
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,000
of the jfk murder

1432
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:02,400
baker was upset to learn that her

1433
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:04,400
developed cancer virus would be tested

1434
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:06,000
on human guinea pigs

1435
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:08,640
from the angola penitentiary uh they

1436
00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:09,839
were transported

1437
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:12,040
these you know the inmates were

1438
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:14,640
transported to a mental hospital in

1439
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:15,440
jackson

1440
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:18,240
and infected there and when baker

1441
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:20,160
complained about this to oxnary

1442
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:22,240
on a note he furiously told her that she

1443
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:23,680
and oswald were expendable he didn't

1444
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:26,240
want any of this in writing

1445
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:29,280
on august 31st 1863 baker says oswald

1446
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,800
drove her to see the results of her

1447
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,640
virus on the prisoners

1448
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,280
one man was so ill she said that uh just

1449
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:37,440
72 hours after the injection he didn't

1450
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:38,319
know where he was

1451
00:48:43,349 --> 00:48:41,280
and he would die 25 days later would

1452
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:43,359
this oxnard convince baker to return to

1453
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,960
her florida home

1454
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:46,800
now the plan was for oswald to take the

1455
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,000
virus to mexico

1456
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:50,480
city where he would hand it to a medical

1457
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:51,200
technician

1458
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:53,520
and from mexico it would go to havana

1459
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:55,599
and pass to a member of castro's medical

1460
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:56,559
team who had

1461
00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:59,680
been turned when castro went to mexico

1462
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:02,160
i'm sorry when oswald went to mexico he

1463
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:04,079
he never found his contact though

1464
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:05,520
and his attempts to bring the material

1465
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:07,200
to cuba himself failed because he

1466
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:08,960
couldn't secure a visa

1467
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:11,760
so he uh returned and he was sent to

1468
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:13,200
dallas

1469
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:14,880
his new cover job at the school book

1470
00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:17,280
depository and his handlers told him

1471
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:18,960
that the castro mission had been aborted

1472
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:20,720
due to damage in cuba by a recent

1473
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,680
hurricane

1474
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:23,520
so oswell continued to speak to baker

1475
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:26,480
via special phone line set up by ferry

1476
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:29,119
through his mafia contacts uh at least

1477
00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:31,200
14 conversations between dallas and

1478
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,839
miami took place according to baker

1479
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:35,760
who said oswald's tone became more

1480
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:37,839
desperate as time passed

1481
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,839
he told her that he'd penetrated a ring

1482
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:41,119
with the help of shaw

1483
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:43,920
and ferry that required him to pretend

1484
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:45,119
he wanted to see

1485
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:48,000
jfk eliminated uh baker claims that

1486
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:49,280
oswald told her

1487
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:51,200
of three locations in dallas where the

1488
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:53,200
hit was being set up

1489
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:54,800
baker claims oswald said he wasn't

1490
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:56,640
afraid of dying but feared he would be

1491
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:58,000
blamed for jfk's death

1492
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,440
and that his kids would never know the

1493
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:01,440
truth uh

1494
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:04,720
the the pair last spoke on november 20th

1495
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:07,359
1963 when oswald assured her that

1496
00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:09,440
he was not alone in trying to save jfk

1497
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:11,599
and that there was one and perhaps two

1498
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:12,240
others

1499
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:14,400
with the same goal but he added that it

1500
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:16,000
was impossible to remove himself from

1501
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:18,000
the situation he penetrated because he

1502
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:20,000
and his family would be killed

1503
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,880
uh they ended this last phone call by

1504
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:24,880
reciting the lord's prayer

1505
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:27,040
and we all know what happened after that

1506
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,119
a lot of good that did them

1507
00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:31,359
yeah man you know somebody that is

1508
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,800
that's a really fascinating story that

1509
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:34,319
was one of my favorite sections in the

1510
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,119
book but

1511
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:37,200
some of these attacks on people may be a

1512
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:38,720
bit hard to believe but you write in the

1513
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:39,359
book that

1514
00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:40,880
congressional investigations have

1515
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:42,800
revealed that there have been over 20

1516
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:44,960
000 secret experiments and tests carried

1517
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:46,880
out on american citizens since 1910.

1518
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:48,880
that is a lot man

1519
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:51,200
yeah yeah and uh you know i mean that's

1520
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:53,040
probably just the tip of the iceberg

1521
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:55,839
you know what's on the record um you

1522
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,400
know and they

1523
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:58,800
they continue to go on i mean you look

1524
00:51:02,309 --> 00:50:59,920
at that and you see

1525
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:02,319
uh you know an unbroken history of just

1526
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:03,440
no regard

1527
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:05,920
for the safety and the rights of

1528
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:06,640
citizens

1529
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,480
it's sickening i mean we all know about

1530
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:10,880
uh syphilis experiments

1531
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:13,760
on the uh the black people in right in

1532
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:15,440
the south and

1533
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:17,760
uh you know just giving them for people

1534
00:51:20,309 --> 00:51:19,119
who don't know they basically just gave

1535
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:20,319
him a placebo

1536
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:22,640
and watched the effects kill exactly

1537
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:24,160
yeah yeah the whole point of the thing

1538
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:25,680
was just to see how the

1539
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:29,200
the disease developed ah hands

1540
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:30,720
and of course you know they picked the

1541
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:32,720
poorest people they could find uh

1542
00:51:36,069 --> 00:51:34,400
just totally helpless and somewhat

1543
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:36,079
ignorant i guess but

1544
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:38,000
um you know it just shows the

1545
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:40,240
ruthlessness that's involved in

1546
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,839
yeah i mean it goes back to these

1547
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:43,359
families at the top of the pyramid

1548
00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:44,079
they've

1549
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:46,240
gained control and maintained return

1550
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:47,359
control for

1551
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:50,160
a couple hundred years now and it's it's

1552
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:51,839
ridiculous i mean it's odd that they can

1553
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,640
get their

1554
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:54,319
families on board you know that they can

1555
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:56,559
just get their kids to carry on their

1556
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:57,359
legacy

1557
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:59,440
you know because it is such a patient

1558
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:00,640
plan

1559
00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:04,640
right it's generational and

1560
00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:07,359
i'm i don't know how close it is to

1561
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:08,480
fruition

1562
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:12,559
but i am disturbed deeply by you know

1563
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:14,480
our government agencies purchasing all

1564
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:15,920
this weaponry and

1565
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:18,559
uh you know ammunition well an odd thing

1566
00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:19,599
about that is that

1567
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,839
that's a story that's being pushed forth

1568
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,359
in the mainstream news now

1569
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:25,680
that the government's stockpiling

1570
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:27,359
weapons and stockpiling ammunition

1571
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:28,720
that's odd that they would report on

1572
00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:29,280
that

1573
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,960
well it might be a warning too of

1574
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:32,240
obviously they're doing that because

1575
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,920
they're expecting some sort of major

1576
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:35,040
social unrest

1577
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:36,480
it's all pretty damning stuff i mean

1578
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:37,920
what do you think is next on the agenda

1579
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:39,040
obviously they're pushing towards the

1580
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:40,960
one world government and obama seems to

1581
00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:42,880
have moved the needle pretty damn far

1582
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:44,720
in the global elites direction but do

1583
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:46,319
you think there'll be a catalyst that

1584
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:48,000
prompts them to start filling up these

1585
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:50,319
fema camps people hear about

1586
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:52,800
yes i do i don't know what it'll be but

1587
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:55,839
some sort of emergency will be fomented

1588
00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:58,000
in other words created by uh these

1589
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:58,880
people

1590
00:53:02,150 --> 00:53:01,119
i it could be you know another terrorist

1591
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:02,160
attack

1592
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:04,720
it could be a worldwide infection you

1593
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:06,240
know disease

1594
00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:08,559
um it could be a number of things the

1595
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:10,880
purpose being to give them an excuse to

1596
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:11,680
enact

1597
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:13,599
these in their emergency measures that

1598
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:15,119
are already in place

1599
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:17,040
you know which basically end the

1600
00:53:20,549 --> 00:53:18,800
democratic system

1601
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:20,559
man you know i think skeptics look at

1602
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:21,920
this and they

1603
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:24,000
they hear people talking about it and it

1604
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:25,520
seems like every

1605
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:28,160
major event for the past couple hundred

1606
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:29,040
years

1607
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:31,359
is completely orchestrated by these

1608
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:32,640
families and that's

1609
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:35,680
that's uh a tough pill to swallow for a

1610
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:36,480
lot of people be

1611
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:38,559
that some somebody has that much power

1612
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:40,319
but it seems like there's no

1613
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:43,280
nothing just happens in this world yeah

1614
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:44,559
yeah well i still think

1615
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:46,319
you know some sometimes things just

1616
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:47,839
happen but these people know how to take

1617
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,599
advantage of it very quickly

1618
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:51,520
war is good news for the bankers you

1619
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,800
know that means

1620
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:54,640
nations have to borrow huge amounts of

1621
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:56,079
money and then turn around

1622
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:59,040
and use that money to uh you know buy

1623
00:54:03,910 --> 00:53:59,440
and

1624
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:03,920
they own the munitions companies

1625
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:05,599
so you know they're getting their money

1626
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:07,520
back the principal right away

1627
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:09,200
plus they're charging ridiculous

1628
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,800
interest on the loans

1629
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:12,319
so you know they're making money hand

1630
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:14,400
over foot the governments are completely

1631
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:15,359
at their uh

1632
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:18,240
mercy and you know war is just good

1633
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:19,599
business

1634
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:22,240
man when when our governments can't even

1635
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:23,440
overcome this

1636
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:25,680
this power structure it seems tough

1637
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:27,440
almost impossible for the individual do

1638
00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:28,800
you think there's a way to beat them

1639
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:30,079
there's a lot of talk about

1640
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,000
resource-based economies and getting

1641
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,319
beyond a monetary system

1642
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:36,640
it seems like that really is the only

1643
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:38,079
solution because

1644
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:41,119
their value or their power is determined

1645
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:43,599
by the perceived value of currency like

1646
00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:46,480
if we were able to flip that switch

1647
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:48,400
it seems like their power would kind of

1648
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:49,920
dissipate i mean is there any other way

1649
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:51,119
to get around this

1650
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:54,960
well yeah yeah i i would start by uh uh

1651
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:58,400
abolishing the federal reserve system

1652
00:55:01,510 --> 00:55:00,559
um that's a privately owned corporation

1653
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:01,520
right right

1654
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,559
um you know they charge

1655
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:06,960
a lot of money to in interest to just to

1656
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:08,960
print our money when our own treasury

1657
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:09,920
department could

1658
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:12,000
very easily do it and legally do it for

1659
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:14,720
free they've done it before

1660
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:17,280
as i pointed out in the book i'm not you

1661
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:19,280
know i'm not making any suggestions here

1662
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:20,720
but there were two there are only two

1663
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:22,160
presidents who

1664
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:25,359
who went around uh the central bank

1665
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:27,599
and printed uh had the treasury

1666
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:29,520
department print our own money

1667
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:31,119
that was abraham lincoln when he did the

1668
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:32,720
greenbacks in the

1669
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:35,839
in the civil war and john f kennedy uh

1670
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:37,920
when he used our silver reserves to

1671
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:40,880
create 4.5 billion dollars of

1672
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:43,680
federal treasury printed bills um

1673
00:55:47,829 --> 00:55:45,040
neither one of them

1674
00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:47,839
made it okay both were killed publicly

1675
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:50,240
in office

1676
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:52,160
that should send a message shouldn't it

1677
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:53,440
well yeah and you know i

1678
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:55,520
i try to point out to people that you

1679
00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:57,200
know john kennedy if they wanted to

1680
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,480
you know get rid of them they could have

1681
00:56:01,910 --> 00:56:00,319
always poisoned them you know

1682
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:01,920
and it would have looked he was a sick

1683
00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:04,000
man anyway very ill so

1684
00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:06,319
you know it could have been you know

1685
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:07,920
natural causes but

1686
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,400
no they they publicly executed him as if

1687
00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:12,160
to send a message

1688
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:14,799
you know that makes me wonder why a guy

1689
00:56:19,589 --> 00:56:16,480
like ron paul who's doing

1690
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:19,599
more to stir up anti-sentiment against

1691
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:20,880
the federal reserve like

1692
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:23,520
why is he even allowed to talk you know

1693
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:25,200
if you off that one man it seems like

1694
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:26,400
that would have gone away a couple of

1695
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:27,200
years ago

1696
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:28,880
well yeah if ron paul had won the

1697
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:30,799
election you you would see something

1698
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:31,520
different

1699
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:33,440
but he's inconsequential to them now

1700
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:34,880
he's an old guy

1701
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:37,680
he he did very poorly in the election so

1702
00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:39,680
yeah

1703
00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:42,880
much to the credit of the media for not

1704
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:44,319
covering them in a lot of cases well

1705
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,640
yeah

1706
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,319
i mean he's portrayed as some kind of

1707
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:48,160
goofball right

1708
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:49,839
as all of us are you know anyone who's

1709
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:51,280
looking into this field is portrayed

1710
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:52,079
that way

1711
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,760
well sure yeah i mean look at the you

1712
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:55,680
know how they portrayed goldwater

1713
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:58,799
in 1964 is you know some nuclear cowboy

1714
00:57:01,910 --> 00:56:59,440
he was you know

1715
00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:01,920
going to start world war three and you

1716
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:03,839
know also that he's you know a kraken

1717
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:05,920
and so johnson's in the meantime is

1718
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:07,119
running on the peace

1719
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:10,079
campaign and as soon as he wins we have

1720
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:11,359
the credibility gaps

1721
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:12,960
you know where he just turns right

1722
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:15,520
around and kicks up the vietnam war

1723
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:17,680
man is there any point where you would

1724
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:20,400
get out of the country

1725
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:23,520
well me personally yeah

1726
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:26,240
no not yet not yet i mean well that's

1727
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:28,240
the whole uh talk about world war ii is

1728
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:29,119
that there were a lot of jews that

1729
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:30,319
wanted to get out but

1730
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:33,440
they waited too long yeah yeah well it's

1731
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:34,240
a bit different

1732
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:36,000
suddenly you know martial law is

1733
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,000
instituted yeah yeah that's serious

1734
00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:40,000
yeah it seems like there might be when

1735
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:41,839
it happens i think it might all happen

1736
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:43,520
at once and it might be tougher to get

1737
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:44,559
out of the country but

1738
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:46,000
i'm just curious because you've done so

1739
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:47,760
much work into it i know people look

1740
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:49,040
into this and they start to get a bit

1741
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:49,920
paranoid

1742
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:51,920
i actually been considering getting away

1743
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:53,520
to somewhere a little more

1744
00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:55,599
a little more tropical a little less

1745
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:56,640
under the control of

1746
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:58,799
of these families but it seems like

1747
00:58:01,190 --> 00:58:00,319
there's really not anywhere to go and

1748
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:01,200
still having

1749
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:02,960
some type of modern convenience of any

1750
00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:04,960
kind right yeah especially if there's a

1751
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:06,559
north american union so you have to get

1752
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:08,640
the heck out of north america completely

1753
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:11,760
but um you know dane phillips uh is

1754
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:14,240
uh very serious about that he's actually

1755
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:16,000
bought a lot of survival stuff

1756
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:19,200
he's prepared to hit the road me

1757
00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:22,559
i'm just i'm just sitting back here

1758
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:24,559
watching things happen i guess there

1759
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:26,240
certainly are some people who uh

1760
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:28,480
you know are making preparations yeah i

1761
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:29,760
mean it does seem

1762
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:32,079
like a very daunting task but on one

1763
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:33,440
hand it's like why

1764
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:35,200
have the knowledge if you're still to be

1765
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:36,960
a victim to

1766
00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:38,960
to the plan to some extent you know if

1767
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:41,599
it were to go a little bit further

1768
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:43,839
yeah yeah well i feel like i've done

1769
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:46,079
some good by just alerting people by

1770
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:47,440
writing this book

1771
00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:50,160
absolutely trying to present things in a

1772
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:51,440
very

1773
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:54,640
factual and easy to digest manner

1774
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:56,960
um you know uh because the material in

1775
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:58,160
here is somewhat shocking

1776
00:59:01,670 --> 00:59:00,720
and it's it's difficult for people to to

1777
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:01,680
accept it even

1778
00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:04,640
even with the journalistic uh packing

1779
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:05,839
you know and the uh

1780
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:09,040
the sources that i i present so

1781
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:10,640
anyway i you know i've done that at

1782
00:59:15,109 --> 00:59:13,119
least yeah i mean that's

1783
00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:15,119
the step one you know is education of

1784
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:16,160
course but that

1785
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:17,920
pretty much does it man wow that was a

1786
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:19,200
great talk for anyone who

1787
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:21,040
who hasn't looked at battle him you

1788
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:22,559
really should there's so much we didn't

1789
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:24,240
cover there's so much you can't cover in

1790
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:25,280
just an hour

1791
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,960
we just kind of took some points and

1792
00:59:30,789 --> 00:59:28,640
tried to create a bit of a

1793
00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:30,799
cohesive story here but excellent

1794
00:59:33,589 --> 00:59:31,920
conversation man you're very

1795
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:33,599
knowledgeable i'm really impressed with

1796
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:35,119
the book i recommend it

1797
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:37,200
obviously to anyone anyone who has

1798
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:39,440
people who are a little bit on the fence

1799
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:40,480
you know i think you could give them

1800
00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:41,920
this book and kind of bring them to our

1801
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:42,720
side

1802
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:44,480
can i tell your audience can i tell your

1803
00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:46,480
audience where to get it absolutely

1804
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:48,480
uh you know aside from the usual online

1805
00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:50,000
place really the best place is just to

1806
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:51,680
get it straight from the publisher

1807
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:55,200
go to uh blackrosewriting.com

1808
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:58,319
that's blackrosewriting.com

1809
01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:00,960
and it's cheaper there for you you'll

1810
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:02,640
get it you'll get a better deal there

1811
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:04,720
yeah we're getting screwed enough right

1812
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:06,240
yeah any little

1813
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:08,160
any little thing helps but is there

1814
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:09,680
anything this obviously this book's a

1815
01:00:13,109 --> 01:00:10,799
couple years old are you working on

1816
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:13,119
anything new in this area

1817
01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:14,880
not in this area no i'm i'm working on

1818
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:16,400
another book it's another non-fiction

1819
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:17,440
book

1820
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:19,040
all right well um do you want to tell

1821
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:20,799
people a little bit about that or

1822
01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:23,040
well no because you know i'm still in

1823
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:24,480
the research this stage

1824
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:26,799
i like to keep things close to the vest

1825
01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:27,520
until it's

1826
01:00:32,230 --> 01:00:30,720
published and copyright smart all right

1827
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,240
well is there anywhere people can keep

1828
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:34,079
up with you online or check in on what

1829
01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:35,680
you're doing well yeah

1830
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:38,240
actually uh i'm not associated with

1831
01:00:42,349 --> 01:00:39,040
james

1832
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:42,359
website which is battlehim.com and

1833
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:43,920
bbnworldnews.com

1834
01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:47,760
but uh you know it is a parallel um

1835
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:50,960
uh you know website uh we share the same

1836
01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:51,599
interests

1837
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,280
and dane takes a little bit more of a

1838
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:55,359
religious slant on it

1839
01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:58,480
but um anyway if uh you know they're

1840
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:59,440
interested

1841
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:01,359
in seeing more you know battleground.com

1842
01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:03,680
and bbnworldnews.com or

1843
01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:06,799
good sites nice well that about does it

1844
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:07,760
for us man again

1845
01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:10,000
thanks for dedicating yourself to such a

1846
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:11,599
thorough examination into some of the

1847
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:13,119
most hidden information out there

1848
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:16,480
really was great uh any final comments

1849
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:18,240
uh no just thank you for having me greg

1850
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:20,160
and uh you know maybe we'll chat again

1851
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:20,640
soon

1852
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:23,040
absolutely thank you john take care

1853
01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:24,880
bye-bye greg bye

1854
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:26,799
whoop there it is guys hopefully now

1855
01:01:29,510 --> 01:01:27,920
you've gotten a good chunk of

1856
01:01:31,990 --> 01:01:29,520
alternative history or

1857
01:01:33,589 --> 01:01:32,000
actual history i should say john's very

1858
01:01:35,190 --> 01:01:33,599
knowledgeable with a great ability to

1859
01:01:37,270 --> 01:01:35,200
remember names and dates in a way that

1860
01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:37,280
makes me feel completely inferior

1861
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:39,119
that's why he's such a great guest the

1862
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:40,640
name of the book is battle him and it

1863
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:42,400
really is a textbook for understanding

1864
01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:43,839
these families and their actions over

1865
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:44,960
the last 200 years

1866
01:01:48,309 --> 01:01:46,319
it was a real honor to have him on the

1867
01:01:49,270 --> 01:01:48,319
show today i also consider the 50th

1868
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:49,280
episode to be

1869
01:01:52,789 --> 01:01:51,119
pretty special on its own right thanks

1870
01:01:54,390 --> 01:01:52,799
for providing enough encouragement over

1871
01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:54,400
the last year and a half to keep

1872
01:01:58,069 --> 01:01:56,400
pushing through there have been some

1873
01:01:59,430 --> 01:01:58,079
weeks where a guest would cancel or i'd

1874
01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:59,440
get called into work and miss an

1875
01:02:01,750 --> 01:02:00,480
important interview

1876
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:01,760
and i just think what the hell am i

1877
01:02:04,870 --> 01:02:03,119
doing you know i don't have time for

1878
01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:04,880
this it's affecting my friendships i'm

1879
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:06,559
always researching for the next episode

1880
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:08,160
or editing the last one

1881
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:10,640
on top of the 50 hours at my cog in the

1882
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,760
wheel job

1883
01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:13,760
it's been pretty tough at times but the

1884
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:15,839
messages the emails the tweets the

1885
01:02:19,349 --> 01:02:16,960
itunes reviews

1886
01:02:20,309 --> 01:02:19,359
they've all been huge motivators and i

1887
01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:20,319
think

1888
01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:21,920
maybe i'm approaching these subjects in

1889
01:02:24,230 --> 01:02:23,359
a different way than some other people

1890
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:24,240
and of course

1891
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:26,000
that's the goal so thanks everyone who's

1892
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:28,079
helped me to continue on

1893
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:30,240
i gotta thank my special lady teresa she

1894
01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:31,440
bought me my first mic

1895
01:02:35,349 --> 01:02:33,839
stand and when this was all just talk

1896
01:02:37,029 --> 01:02:35,359
she's put up with all the stress and

1897
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:37,039
frustration that goes along with a

1898
01:02:39,750 --> 01:02:38,319
project like this

1899
01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:39,760
i've also got to thank my good friend

1900
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:41,440
kyle prinneville who's been there since

1901
01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:42,240
the beginning

1902
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:43,920
my other two co-hosts and bloggers that

1903
01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:45,520
have helped keep the site updated adam

1904
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:46,880
go rightly and jake bender

1905
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:49,200
thank you there's also a few other names

1906
01:02:51,670 --> 01:02:50,720
that really helped in the first year

1907
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:51,680
gordon downes

1908
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:54,240
great comedian hermo west fernando bob

1909
01:02:58,230 --> 01:02:55,920
hanson and paul herman

1910
01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:58,240
just to name a few it's funny when you

1911
01:03:01,589 --> 01:03:00,000
start side projects like this because

1912
01:03:03,750 --> 01:03:01,599
you'll have some friends that encourage

1913
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:03,760
you and help push the project out there

1914
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:04,880
then you'll have friends who couldn't

1915
01:03:07,029 --> 01:03:06,799
give a [\h__\h] they'll tweet about how the

1916
01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:07,039
st

1917
01:03:11,029 --> 01:03:08,880
louis cardinals did or how bad the snow

1918
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:11,039
is but they just don't care to help a

1919
01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:11,920
friend out

1920
01:03:15,109 --> 01:03:13,440
it hurts at times you know to see

1921
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:15,119
friends post clips from some of the most

1922
01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:16,880
popular podcasts on the net

1923
01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:18,480
who don't need the promotions and you

1924
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:19,920
want to say hey man

1925
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:21,520
you know we've been friends for 20 years

1926
01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:22,960
can you listen to one of my [\h__\h]

1927
01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:23,920
shows

1928
01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:25,920
uh you know say one nice thing about

1929
01:03:30,069 --> 01:03:27,119
what i'm doing

1930
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:30,079
and you know i believe there's also egos

1931
01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:31,520
involved that get upset

1932
01:03:34,549 --> 01:03:32,880
that they're not doing something on

1933
01:03:35,109 --> 01:03:34,559
their own you know and if you have

1934
01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:35,119
friends

1935
01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:37,039
that are working hard on their art keep

1936
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,480
in mind a simple

1937
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:40,240
word of encouragement or a [\h__\h]

1938
01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:42,400
facebook like as stupid as it is

1939
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:44,720
could be the difference between crushed

1940
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:46,559
spirits that give up and really pushing

1941
01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:47,680
through one more day

1942
01:03:50,710 --> 01:03:49,359
that might be the crucial day they need

1943
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:50,720
to really get noticed

1944
01:03:54,549 --> 01:03:52,480
and for anyone struggling to make their

1945
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:54,559
passion a feasible full-time job and

1946
01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:55,680
source of income

1947
01:03:59,510 --> 01:03:57,440
remember that you just gotta keep

1948
01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:59,520
pushing through despite the haters and

1949
01:04:02,309 --> 01:04:01,119
the thousands of other people pushing

1950
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their [\h__\h]

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you gotta make it work if you ever wanna

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get out from under the control of these

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families or your corporate job

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it's really the only path to happiness

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as far as i'm concerned

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and it's the only thing worth working

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for what's worth working for if not that

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right

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you give 40 hours a week to a

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passionless job you could do the same

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for yourself

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that's enough preaching thanks for

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attending the church at carl wood

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check out thehiresidechats.com and of

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course my conspiracy t-shirt company

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conspiratees.net

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please if you have the extra flow a

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small donation would be great but

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really buy yourself a t-shirt you might

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as well get something

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for for your money if you can't do that

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i've said it before the currency of the

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internet is likes

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shares retweets and [\h__\h] itunes

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reviews

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if you can provide me with one of those

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that does

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more and goes farther and lasts longer

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than five dollars and

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it means a hell of a [\h__\h] lot so

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there it is

1982
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episode 50. we've traveled down this

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rabbit hole quite a bit

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thanks for traveling with me i will see